Using Mindfulness and Music to Make Dreams Come True
Hanna Hermanson: Welcome back dreamers. This is Hanna and today I am with JusTme or TJ Scott. He is a mindful Hip-Hop Artist and mindfulness Instructor who’s been working with the youth in schools nationwide, bringing self-love and care concepts and practices into their lives and early development. Through his coined “Mindful Hip-Hop” music and lyrics, JusTme has been sharing his message of mindfulness, we’ll-being, we’ll break that down later, and love since 2012. JusTme continues to share his talents with students around the globe through his engaging school visits, mindful hip-hop tracks, and social media presence. JusTme was also featured on the cover of October 2016 Mindful Magazine. So glad you are here. Thank you, my friend.
TJ Scott: Oh, man. So glad to just be here with you, I just can’t say enough how much I love you, how much I’m proud of you. Yes, let’s give the dreamers what they need out here. [laughs]
Hanna: Yes, I have had the delight of being a personal friend of yours for almost three years now. So, it’s always great to include each other on our projects and I know your message is one that these listeners will appreciate and want to connect with. The first question I always like to ask is, where in the world are you today?
TJ: Right now, I am sitting outside in the sunshine in my backyard in Valeo, California. Just kind of decompressing from this school year finally kind of coming to an end. Doing all the traveling and backing and forth and across the country a little bit from school to school. It’s been a lot. You know what I’m saying? It’s been a beautiful growth. It’s been a lot fast-paced moving, getting stuff done. It’s time to recharge. Self-care for real.
Hanna: Yes, I like asking that question because it’s so amazing how people can be on a mission and all over the world, [laughs] doing their work or being a digital nomad. I honestly don’t always know where you are because you do make it to so many schools. So, let’s dive into your story a little bit today. For the past many years, since 2012, you’ve been working in schools, sharing your mindful hip-hop music and lyrics but this hasn’t always been how you spend your days. So, share with us your story and how you got to be JusTme?
TJ: Well honestly, music has always been a big, big, big deal in my life. Like my mom, for as long as I can remember, has always been singing. She used to tour and sing a lot across the world, all over the place with various big name artists and stuff. Music has always been a big, intricate part of my life. But I got interested in music for myself at the age of 12, writing my own lyrics, starting to write my own lyrics. I learned that summer, right before I went to seventh grade, how to write songs. It’s just like it’s been a non-stop thing. But specifically looking forward into my adult life, how JusTme came to be, I mean I was working job after job after job, after job, after job, after job. There was even a point where I had four jobs for a few months and then three jobs for a sustained amount of time. I wasn’t producing the results in life that I wanted. I was noticing that my eating patterns, my health patterns, the way that I just felt about myself and life period was really on a rapid decline. It wasn’t until the age of 29, I’m 34 now, 29 where kind of felt like I hit a very low point. I had a really swift mind shift that took place. I was driving back from Texas for about two days, I had a two-day drive back from Texas after a kind of botched relationship. A lot of health issues that were going on with myself and then health issues that were going on with various other folks in our family. So that was causing my mental and emotional strain on me. It was just like, I got in that car and I was driving back from Texas and it was just like, “I’ve got to really get back to serving.” Because I almost gave up on my dreams of having music be my main source of income, my main source of just sharing with the world, my main source of just like creative expression and showing people who I am and offering from my heart in that way. I almost gave that up to join the Navy and become a truck driver, which is not a bad existence by any means, but I knew deep down in my soul that that wasn’t the one for me. But because of my circumstances, I was thinking, “Man, I don’t really know what else to do.”
But luckily on that drive back, I had that mind shift and because of the mind shift and I’ve got to get back to serving and serving the best way that I know how to serve, not how somebody else serves but how I know how to serve, the doors just started opening because my mind was on that. Like for example, I came back and had to live by myself, not by myself but with my mom. Twenty-nine years old that’s not a good look trying to bring young ladies around and what not. [laughter] It’s just not looking cool. I got a job down the street at this YMCA from where my mom stayed at the time. That job turned into me meeting the founder of Mindful Life project, JG Larochette, out in Richmond, California. I met him at the training for the YMCA. He introduced me to Mindfulness. Then I got trained through mindful schools and started meeting a lot of mindful folks. I started to basically go in and out of schools. Like it first, it was just the after school program almost like a probationary period for me because I don’t have any experience at the time. I didn’t have any experience in like working with kids or I don’t have a degree in teaching or any kind of like instructional types of modalities.
So basically, somebody saw me for who I was, they gave me a shot and I just showed up with the mindset of like I want to be in service. Each time, it just kind of kept being on that pattern. Like, I would just be invited places and I would just show up and do what it is that I do. It is literally grown into just Mindfulness being my company, working on a curriculum, I’ve been collaborating with various like organizations just to bring mindfulness into schools and help educators and students see things from another perspective and see themselves from another perspective. One with self love and self care in place. It has been a beautiful journey to be able to be at this junction in the road and still learning so much and honestly, still not even where I see things going or being. Because I still have to deal with my life and my ups and downs from day to day at time. I say all that to say like when you set your mindedness doing something when you really just set your mind to doing it and you get tired of being tired, like you really just step forward. You don’t have to really do a whole lot of efforting when your mind is on the right things. You know what I’m saying? The doors will start to open up for you. Like you definitely have to put mass efforting, don’t get it twisted like, you’ve got to put the timing, you’ve got to put the work in, otherwise you’re not going to see the results. But at the same time, it’s just like when your mind is made up you’re already in that mode of like making it happen for yourself. So like, you seek one thing and three things pop up for you. You look at all three of those things and three more stems off of all three of those things and it exponentially grows for you when your mind is in the right spot.
Hanna: Yes. I took a lot about being on a foggy path. Like you said, I know exactly where I want to be at but I know that this is in a line with my purpose. You have to make a decision though to step on to that foggy path from the traditional. Like for you, okay, going to the Navy, getting a job, like that’s one option I see and that could’ve worked for me but like this other foggy thing is what I need to lean into.
TJ: Right, right.
Hanna: So take us back to that drive in Texas and tell us a little bit more about what happened in your mindset? What was that moment that you decided that your dream life needed to be your real life?
TJ: Honestly it’s like, during that drive because like I said, I had been writing songs. I made up my mind at sixteen that I wanted to have music be my career. Some form fashion, I was looking at it more being a mainstream hype. I was heavily influenced by Kanye West, Jay Z, Lil Wayne, Drake, all of those folks at the time. Well I really, [inaudible] sort of songs, some familiar names maybe, you know what I mean? So it’s just like by watching them and seeing how they persevere throughout their career really inspired me to want to do the same thing and knowing that my brand of music has never been heavily, I’ll say heavily street influenced in the sense that I’m talking about choice topics that have to do with street life. That’s not necessarily my thing but me having a close enough tie-in to the streets and kind of like an ear for what’s going on in the streets and then trying to give my life a story through my lyrics. I just was like, “Man, I’ve got to try to make this mainstream. Obviously happen, I have to be out here. I have to share my voice with this,” and be looking at getting Grammys and all the rest on their inner and the whole accolades, big houses, big cars– having a young man’s mindset at that particular time.
But when I was coming back from Texas, I was realizing like, one thing that popped in my mind, kind of like, I think this is when the shift took place. This is probably the first time that I’m like giving voice to this. It was something that was like, maybe we can do this music path and it might not look exactly how I envisioned it. Because like you were saying, it’s a foggy vision because there’s so much uncertainty around doing it because we’re so conditioned and programmed to go to school, go to college, go from college and go get a good job and then live out your career, raise a family and do all of that stuff. We’re kind of like put on this assembly line, so to speak. At the time, it was just like maybe it won’t look the same exact way that you vision, and it then that thought just popped in. At first, I resisted that. I was like, “No. It’s going to be exactly how I want it because I’m going to set my mind to doing it this way and that’s what it’s going to be.” So, when I came back, before I got involved with the Mindful Life project, I was back on that trying to go to clubs, go to various low venues to showcase, showcase my adult style of music. It wasn’t until I got the opportunity to work with the kids, face to face and write songs for them and write songs with them and see how much they lit up just from somebody sitting down with them and sharing this. It dawned on me just right now. It was dawning on me that it makes so much sense because I remember when I was learning how to write raps when I was learning at twelve, the person who showed me is Dunelm Toriano [?], I met him in Oakland through my mom and he was an older guy and I looked up to him like an older brother. When he showed me how to write raps and how to get my lyrics started, I just remembered how excited I was about learning this art form. I got to see that same art form light up in all of the students that I was working with, on my early—
Hanna: Full circle.
TJ: Yes. It all came full circle. So, I say that like Texas ride was a pivotal point because I was hurt. I was pretty heartbroken. I was physically feeling broken and rusting. Also, I’m disappointed. I have a son who lives in Los Angeles and at the time, I was so far away from him and I had been far away from him for quite some time. I was trying to get myself established out in Texas so I could have some roots and bring him around more and just be the dad that I want to be for my son. When that all fell apart, it was like the only thing that I had, the only little sunshine ray of light that I had in my mind on that drive was getting back to serving and maybe it won’t look the way, exactly the way that you’re thinking it should look.
So, maybe be open to it being different, it’s like, I really want to drive that part home because I tell you like, watching these kids now looking at where my careers and looking at how many kids and students and teachers that I’m influencing and affecting in a positive way. Like, there’s no Grammy that I can get that tops that. You know what I’m saying? Like Grammy is a beautiful, beautiful reward. You know what I’m saying? If somebody wants to get me one later on in this career path that I’m on, I’m going to definitely take with graciously and with humility it look. But at the same time, like I’ve got little kids, kindergarteners, second, third, fourth-grade kids’ smiling. You know what I’m saying? Like some of those kids, they don’t really have the amenities that they should be having as young people have. Real life adult situation that they’re having to deal with and trying to process at these young ages and just to see them light up and have smiles on their faces and to see them sit still and do mindful practices and work with their own bringing. Then after the assemblies or the visits that we have, they come up to me and they give me genuine authentic hugs of appreciation and love and draw pictures for me and all this other kind of stuff, it’s just like, “Man, there’s nothing else in this world that equates to that. When you really know that you’re touching another persons’ heart.” Exactly, so–
Hanna: Yes. When you chase the impact, that’s when your heart gets filled. That’s such a common theme when I talk to entrepreneurs or even just people who are looking to live the dream as we get so focused on how much money do we make and then numbers, statistics or rewards. When you are sitting back at the end of your life, none of that is going to matter. That’s just an energy that quickly runs out and is constantly being changed. But the impact in seeing those kids sitting mindfully for the first time and feels like, “Wow, JusTme gets me.” I’m not in third grade anymore but your song is okay to be awesome. It’s something that plays through my head in those moments that are like, “Oh gosh, I’m doing things differently,” or if I’m taking some leap. I truly go back to the JusTme, it’s okay to be awesome. [laughs]
TJ: Yes, that’s love. That’s love and that’s what I’m saying, we just get an opportunity, we all have a gift. I tell the kids this all the time, “We all have a gift or a number of gifts that we’re all kind of like harboring inside of us.” Now, whether we know it or not or whether we’ve tapped into it or not, it is individual to individual but we all have something that we’re here to share with the world. If we’re not mentally, emotionally, physically, spiritually available to share these gifts or even financially available to share the gifts, like the world misses out, so the thing is, the one thing that can always come and go is your finances.” Like, we know how to make money and we know how to spend money. Most of the time we know how to spend money more than we know how to make it. [laughs] That’s why we’re working on it. It’s a constant work. But it’s just like, let the finances be the last thing on your mind as you develop your gifts and as you study your craft. You know what I’m saying? Like, I talk to people all the time that are just like, “Man, I want to do this but I’ve got to do this over here.” I’m just like, “You’re already doing your 9 to 5 job. You’re already doing your numbers job, you’ve got that going. Now, you’re going to have to dig a little bit deeper into yourself and ask yourself how bad, do I really want this dream that I’m sitting on this gift that I’m just sitting on. How bad do I want to share this?”
Hanna: What’s the cost of sitting on it?
TJ: Yes, the cost, man. The cost of sitting on our dreams is so detrimental to society.
TJ: Like, everybody right now needs each other. That’s our biggest peace, I’m looking up how we’re doing each other and how we’re treating each other out here and navigating politics, navigating tragedies that have been happening in our society. All these kinds of stuff, like the key thing that’s missing is human to human connection. Like, it’s cool to be on Facebook, cool to be on Instagram or Snapchat and all of that. But if you’re not having an authentic human to human connection. You know what I’m saying? With people that are out here and in this life like, going through things and then vulnerably opening up to share these things, if we’re not connecting in those types of ways that’s when we don’t see the importance of life. We don’t see the importance of one another. So it’s like, you’re sharing your dream is detrimental to the well-being not only of yourself but the well-being of each and every one of us here in this world and here in this society especially. You know what I’m saying? You’ve got to put your feeling up and affect people as much as possible.
Hanna: Yes. Something that’s been so fun for me to learn is that the more people you help, the more you get what you want.
Hanna: Growing up it was that path of, do the right thing, do good in school for yourself, compete in sports, be the top of like this individual focus. Then when I went into business, it was like, “All right, I’ve got to have my goals, this is my–.” When I realized, it actually doesn’t matter what my goals are as I’m only focusing on myself. Because it means to build a business you have to have other people. You have to have clients. You have to have a team and like we don’t do anything alone. So, I love just realizing that the world is only going to give me what I want when I give what other people need.
TJ: Exactly. Honestly, I’ve been running this organization for three years. I have yet to solidify all of the business pieces because I don’t have the business background. You know I’m saying? But I’m learning more and more that relationships are a business. You know what I mean? Like, they really are a business. It’s a goods and service exchange for energy. The energy that we’re talking about is not necessarily money all the time, it’s your time. It’s your presence. It’s your ideas, your focus, your attention like, that’s an exchange that’s taking place. You know I’m saying? So any time you got an exchange going on, that’s business, and I’m learning that more and more as I go.
That’s another piece like don’t be afraid to learn as you go because I swear I do not have all of this stuff figured out. I have barely enough to just continue to keep like getting by. But like the more and more you learn, the more and more the business that just kind of settles in and it’s and it’s kind of like – it was intimidating for me. It kind of stopped me and stifle me and have me very fearful not just of my success, my potential success, but of like making a mistake. Then people seeing me in a different light, and they’re like, “Oh, well maybe not as legit or not as good of a person or da-da-da-da-da or as he’s putting his self out there to be.” So you’re always going to have those little like insecurity kind of moments because for lack of knowledge, you put yourself in a position where you feel fearful or insecure.
So, it’s just like feed your brain as much as you can. That is my ultimate goal for this summer is just to like feed my brain as much mindfulness, as much business, as much like real human-to-human relationship as I possibly can. You know what I’m saying? So I would encourage that to do that too.
Hanna: So, just — I’m picking up on a theme here between being willing to change your direction or let go of the idea that your music had to fit a certain style or look a certain way. Then with building your business being on another foggy path like, “Okay, I’m not exactly sure how you do this whole business game. But I’m on this path because I know it’s impacting kids, I know educators need this.” It seems to me that you have mastered whether you recognize us or not the philosophy of being committed yet unattached.
TJ: Man, I’ve never even looked at it like that. That’s the thing. [laughs] That’s amazing.
Hanna: As I think more about successful folks, it’s not something that everyone does consciously, but people that are committed to, “I’m going to make a difference. I’m going to make my dream life my real life. I don’t know what it’s going to look like.” That’s the unattached piece. But like just having that deep understanding that like how dare I not? [laughs] How dare I sit on this dream? How dare I not pursue my dream and stay committed and allowing the how and the exact package or job title or even like the location you’re going to be doing this in. This present itself because just like when you made that decision in the car in Texas, the next people presented themselves and then you got into the YMCA. I hear these stories over and over when you are committed and unattached, it shows up.
TJ: It sure does, like honestly – and even like just taking it a step further than just the commitment like you have to be vulnerable. You really have like – you cannot shy away from vulnerability like a lot of people who sit on their gifts because they learn about what somebody else thinks. Like I’m going to be honest with you all right now, like just the past like literally like the past two weeks for me have been kind of challenging because I feel this with more responsibility or more power comes great responsibility. You know what I’m saying? Great power because you notice what Peter Parker’s uncle say to him before he became Spiderman, right? With great power comes great responsibility.
TJ: Knowing how like sensitive – because I’m dealing with other people’s children. You know what I’m saying? Like that’s their pride and joy. I’m also dealing with educators, people that are teaching other people’s children. You know what I’m saying? So it’s like that’s a heavy, a heavy load sometimes for me to like fathom. But like you can’t – like I’m noticing more and more and I want to tell you all from the bottom of my heart like you cannot focus on that. Like that can’t be your focus like the things that might trip you up or the things that you’re leery about. You can’t let those things stop you. It has to be a situation where you’re like, “You know what, I’m going to go out here courageously. Meaning that fear is present but I’m going still do it, anyway. I don’t know what’s coming. Uncertainty is definitely on an all-time high. What if I lose my job? What if I don’t sustain? What if this business of mine crumbles and falls apart?”
It’s like all those things are running through my mind. But then on a flip side, the loudest voice is saying, “Well, what if it goes amazingly? What if it impacts children for generations to come? What if you set a new standard of self love and care being a common sensical thing amongst human beings in here?” You know what I’m saying?
Like, those are the things that you have to like keep your mind and focus on when you’re like – when the self-doubt or the resources run dry or any of those monsters rear their ugly heads. You have to just continue to say, “You know what? I’m going to vulnerably step out here. Like you said, I’m going to be committed to myself.” Because you’re giving dream is you’re really committing to loving you. You’re spending quality time with yourself. You’re creating from within yourself and then sharing it outwardly externally to affect this planning, like you’ve become a son. You’ve become us actual son. You’re being in your light out into the world. [crosstalk] And like the sun, the sun is not –
Hannah: Yes. But your energy – [crosstalk]
TJ: Yes. Exactly. The sun is not in the sky complaining. [laughter] You know what I’m saying? Which you can’t hear it, so just like –
Hannah: But hey, they have cloudy days. They have rainy day. They have storms. And I think that whole – there is a huge fear of failure and a fear of success. Yet, if you decide that I’m going to put myself out there just to learn, because whether you succeed or whether you fail, all of that is learning. To have that sort of growth mindset of that like I’m going to step out here in courage and the lesson is going to come to me and I’ll take the next step of courage and I’ll learn again. That’s really what I think, yes, creating your dream life is all about. Like you said, it’s not an endpoint. It’s not like, “Oh, it’s perfect now.” But it’s like commitment to yourself, to loving yourself and seeing what’s the next step is or like what’s possible for you when you take steps out of your comfort zone.
TJ: Absolutely. Absolutely. Like to that point that you were saying about like how — it’s basically you can’t — that non-attachment piece, you cannot put limits on yourself. When you attach to a certain idea, when you attach to a certain way of this thing being the total outcome, you basically put yourself in a box. You limit yourself. You limit your potential. So the thing is like you have to be like water. You have to flute like Bruce Lee said it best, “Be like water my friend because it’s like water can fit a container or it can flow freely. It can flow smoothly and nicely or it can crash.” You know I’m saying? Bruce Lee said it best.
That’s really how we have to be willing to adapt if we really want to obtain our dream life and get out of the mode of being one of the ones that just complain about stuff not being on point for and continuously having like pity parties amongst friends and family members. You’ve got to let that stuff. Oh, and another big deal, big thing. Like, this is probably the biggest thing. Like, love ones like if they’re talking down or doubting or even just like showing some concern about what is it that you’re planning on doing, like you have to love them and sometimes you’re going to have to love them from a distance. You can’t let them stop you from putting your whole heart into what it is that you are wanting to achieve because ultimately you came into this world naked in by yourself. That’s how you’re going to leave, unless he was a twin. And you still – even if he was a twin, you still came out by yourself. You know what I’m saying?
So the thing is like you can – don’t let your loved ones stifle you from being trip you or any of that. Don’t let your loved ones influence you against yourself.
TJ: You know what I’m saying? Don’t do it. [laughs]
Hanna: This is my uses. Yes. You’ve taught me a lot about this and changing the story around naysayers has been so powerful for me. I know you’ve seen a lot of this journey of like thinking they don’t get me or they’re not supportive or it has to be such a struggle to defend myself because I’m moving and changing jobs and trying all these things. When I realize that their concerns, their “naysaying” was really because they wanted the best for me. And we have extremely different worldviews.
So to be like, “Okay, I see you love me, you want me to be safe, you want me to be taken care of.” And to me, being safe and taken care of is really uncomfortable and scary. So, the more that I’ve committed to just being like I see that you love me, I also love me. And I’m going to try it this way without that sort of grudge or tension. It has allowed me to expedite my growth because I’ve let go of that weight, that negativity that you–
TJ: I see.
Hanna: Absolutely, yes.
TJ: I see. I see.
Hanna: Oh, we could go on and on just dropping wisdom bombs over here. I love it. [laughs]
TJ: [laughs] Straight up. Yes.
Hanna: Let’s get to the pop quiz here. The last three questions I have for you.
Hanna: I will be grading you. No, I’m just kidding. [laughs]
TJ: Okay, for sure. [laughs]
Hanna: You’ll do well. Pop quiz question number one is, what is one thing that you would encourage dreamers, listeners, people who are feeling that nudge to take a courageous step? What can they do today to get closer to their dream life?
TJ: Today, what you could do is I’ve adapted this a bit of this bit of information kind of came to me and I’ve adapted it kind of like a mantra. Just look at it like this, from a yogic standpoint, from being into yoga, being a yogi, the last posture on your mat tends to be savasana, right? Savasana is corpse pose. So it supposed to symbolize a little bit of death, right? So the thing is this, I look at it like this. When we get in the bed to go to bed at night like that is a savasana. That’s a death. You’re putting the day to bed. You know what I’m saying? And you’re taking a break from the night and hopes’ that you’ll wake up in the morning and pursue life.
So basically at the end of the day, tomorrow does not exist. There is no such thing as tomorrow cause by the time tomorrow gets to you, it’s today. So the thing is, it’s like, don’t put your hopes and your dreams into tomorrow. I’ll get to it tomorrow, like whatever it is that you want to do and whatever it is that you take a step towards doing that today and look at it like there is no tomorrow. And I’m going to basically take a little death later on, later on this evening. What things would I want to do in preparation for that little death? What things do I want to have done in my day? How do I want to have seized my days, you know I’m saying, before I die? You know I’m saying? Before I die for the day? Like how do I want to – what I do want to be able to say that I did in my life in the day that I was giving? So it’s just like take a step towards it.
Even if it’s a small step, saying your goal – one of your goals is to be a fitness coach. But your fitness is not on point. Make sure that you do – set a push-ups or set of sit-ups or go for a nice long walk someplace, maybe put that on film and encourage people, “Hey, I’m out here walking. You know I’m saying? We’re getting this day one. We’re getting started. But it’s just like, get started. That’s the main thing I want people to take away. Get it started.”
Hanna: Get it started. In alignment with your legacy and those things that you want to be remembered for, not the stuff that, “Oh, what do I want to make sure gets done so my household is running properly in the morning?”
Hanna: What is one thing? Whether it’s reaching out to someone or, yes, recording that walking video. I think that’s totally doable. I love it. I’m going to take a little tangent because you’re going to appreciate this story about there is no tomorrow, which you know sometimes people, “You’re so morbid, Hanna.” But I agree that like this could be your last day. We really don’t know the longevity that we have. So making the most of every day is very important to me. And Mack, my partner who lives in Virginia, and I’m sure that they have these everywhere. But there was this bar that we went to in Virginia. It had a big sign outside that said, “Free beer tomorrow.” Then I thought about it. I was like, “Wait. Oh, if they have that out every day like,” and it kind of dawned on me how clever it was. Mack is very philosophical. So we got into this conversation and what you just kind of brought up. The fact that there is no tomorrow, like if we come back in 24 hours, we’re still going to be waiting for tomorrow, like we should just pay for the beer now. [laughs]
TJ: That’s it. [laughs]
Hanna: But I think it sounds silly, but we did get into this higher level of like, “We need to be paying for the things and doing the things right now.”
Hanna: Otherwise, we’ll just be waiting and waiting and we’ll never get free beer or –
TJ: I love that. [laughs]
Hanna: Cool. Good stuff. So do one thing today or buy the beer, or whatever. It’s your legacy. [laughs]
TJ: Right, right. [laughs]
Hanna: All right. You’ve got an A+ on that question. Question number two is what is a resource? Like, people love getting their hands on tangible resources. So, is there something that really, really catalyzed your dream life that you would recommend to other people?
TJ: I would say one resource has honestly been for sure it been the development of my mindful practice, like spending some sit-down quiet quality time with myself at certain points in a day has been like life-changing. So if you don’t have like mindfulness or meditation practice and you find it kind of difficult to do it on your own, apps like headspace calm, those are all very good resources. YouTube has a plethora of like guided meditations and just sound healing type meditations that you can sit with. I would encourage you all to do that.
For something like tangible, I’m really enjoying this book that I’m reading right now called “Inner Engineering by Sadhguru.” It’s inner engineering, a yogi’s guide to joy. Sadhguru, S-A-D-H-G-U-R-U. So, that’s a really cool resource, a really like cool insightful resource that’s right there at your fingertips. Yes, definitely a meditation practice of some sort and fill your brain with many things that are going to keep you on a positive level and on an encouraged level. I think that’s a better word than positive level because sometimes I think positively gets kind of convoluted and it starts to lose its power because we all kind of use it so cliché nowadays. Like, you don’t invite any of the negativity that comes in, so that you can properly process it. So, that’s a whole another topic we can get into. But which is so I would say anything that’s like giving you an encouragement of any sort, something that’s going to encourage you out of whatever dark space you might be, man, go for it. So meditate, check out that book and anything that’s encouraging, go for it.
Hanna: Powerful. I love it. Question number three. You’re doing well. Where can we learn more about you? Stay connected, get access to your music, all of that.
TJ: All of this stuff. I got you. So, my tagline is JusTMindfulness, J-U-S, capital T- M-I-N-D-F-U-L-N-E-S-S. Also typing me in on Google, J-U-S, capital T-ME or JusTMindfulness. You can find all my researches. Check out justmindfulness.com. Check out JusTMindfullness on YouTube. I’m going to pushing for – my goal is by the end of this summer to be up on Spotify, iTunes, and all like this stuff have some projects and stuff available on my website for purchase. And yes, I got an endless – oh, social media outlets too. You got Instagram, JusTMindfulness, Snapchat, JusTMindfullnes, all that kind of stuff. So it’s–
Hanna: Man, you are filling up. Every websites—[laughs]
TJ: Yes! That’s really it.
Hanna: Just a little teaser, a very bad cover of one of my favorite, JusTMindfulness songs showing up on social media. To feel are really—
Hanna: All right, go check it out, you guys. It is catchy. It is encouraging and it is great music. So any final parting words of wisdom? I know you’ve got a lot, but there’s something coming to you that you think listeners might need to hear today.
TJ: Yes, just don’t give up, don’t give up on yourself. I know that sounds kind of cliché, but literally like do not give up on yourself. Like those hard days where you’re like, “What am I doing? Is this really want to be doing? Is this really what it is that I’m supposed to be doing? Like just go for it. You know what I’m saying? Like if this is your dream thing that you’re a part of, like stick with it and go for it with everything and every fiber that you have in your being. You know what I’m saying? Just know that you’re not by yourself. You ain’t the first person that wants to do something huge in life and you won’t be the last. So, just know you’re not alone. Whatever it is that you want to achieve, go get it. Like, go make it happen. Figure out how to make it happen. And it will. It will happen for sure.”
Hanna: I feel that. Thank you, brother. This has been amazing. I so appreciate your time. And again, we will be filling all of those links on the podcast website. So if you are out and about listening to this, just hop on over to the dreamlifeisreallife.com/podcast and you can find JusTme’s episode and all of the links and resources he shared. So we will—
TJ: That’s right.
Hanna: –we will hug soon, my friend.
TJ: Oh yes.
Hanna: I’ll see you all next week.
TJ: You know what this piece, singing that bat-bat-boy.